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Sting operation carried out by Cobra Post on several agents who carry out UID registration. The agents are seen agreeing to arrange UID for refugee, non-Indian residents. This file contains raw video from the stings, the edited DVD of the same material released by Cobrapost with voiceover etc is here
Reporter (R): Arre Bhaiya, to tell you the truth he is not from here, he is a refugee residing here
Assistant (A): Okay.
R: So he does not have anything, its a simple thing
A: Okay, it will be done. You would know how it will cost
A: Pay whatever you see fit
Source (S): You tell us, what is there to be shy
R: It is not about payment, what will you take. You will get our documents and all done right?
A: I will do all that. I will get all the documents done by myself.
R: So it is your responsibility right?
R: We just have to come, get our photo clicked and give the fingerprint
A: A: Tell me if you want to get it clicked now.If you want to get clicked now it can be done
R: He also has a wife. We will get her along so that both of them will get done
S: We have been struggling, that's the problem. Let me tell you now itself
A: We will get it done. 'You are struggling'. Only the strugglers come here. Whoever comes here has a struggle
R: Okay, so you have done it for all the strugglers, we are are also struggling, get it done for us too
A: Okay, it will be done. I will tell you when you come next.
R: Tell me anyway. Basically, these people are from Bangladesh. They are refugees.
A: For this, I will have to ask my sir. [long pause] Will have to ask sir
R: So get us to talk to your sir once
Farman Ali (FA): If there are only two people, so it does not matter if it is two or three. You can pay per head. 1,000 for one person, if you want it for two it will be 2,000.
R: 1,000 for one person and it will be done? When?
FA: Will call you and inform. Will tell sir. Sir has to be paid as well.
FA: The money you pay goes right up through our sir
R: So when you do it you send money right till the top?
FA: FA: Proof is needed. Proof cannot be scanned
S: It is all in your hands
R: What I am trying to say is, these things you do for those who have documents..
FA: ...the money goes everywhere
R: Money goes everywhere?
R: So these people have no documents, it can be done right? Aadhar card will be done right?
FA: We will do it
R: You guys make it anyway. Make two more as well
FA: If you end up in the court tomorrow, everything can be figured out from a machine
where you got it done, who got it done, which date it was done, how it was made, when and how it was done. what you had submitted.
FA: Auntiji! Auntyji, he is having lunch...he has not called you.. It is written outside...
FA: So from machine everything can be revealed. Even the makers name is listed. Who was at the centre at that time. Other such case has already come
R: There has been such a case already?
FA: There have been some. Some people have volunteered and said that they have done this, some have done it for their neighbours.
S: They told us it is being done, so we have come here to get it done
FA: There is not issue to get it done. But if you could show me once where they are put up,
FA: I will be confident from my end
S: We stay at Church Mission Road.
FA: Let me see the place. I was thinking about it yesterday, it was Sunday a holiday and took the time from 9-10. If I go there and meet once
FA: And if I feel they are poor, I can do it for less also, even if it is about Bangladesh.
FA: You know that I work here. You know where I am. Now, where you come from, where do you live. There is this little tension
R: That's true.
FA: Now I don't now how many people live in Delhi. So if a little trust is built, I can do it. No problem
R: That makes sense. See it for yourself, there's no issue.
FA: I will do it, that one. Be it one, two, 100, 1000... we make 100 genuine ones in a day and can do otherwise for 10 people too.
R: Do it like you do it for everyone else. You must have done it earlier too, no?
FA: No, It has been done earlier, but have not done for those from Bangladesh.
R: But you have done it for those without documents.
FA: We do it, but we know them from their reference.
FA: ...like my uncle comes along with someone.
FA: Or, I see that this person has lived in a place since childhood, I will do it
FA: [Say] someone has an urgent train to catch to Orissa and has no proof card. He will be willing to spend even Rs. 3,000 to get his work done.
FA: 'I have a friend and uncle in the govt office'. We don't believe in such govt employees. It's a good thing that you came to meet directly.
FA: If you show me where the person stays, I will have some trust. I will do it. There is no problem. And if I feel like, I will do it for cheap also. There is no such thing
R: You only want to see that he lives there, right?
S: Okay, that is not an issue.
FA: If I am taking any risk, let me be cautious from my end right?
FA: The matter is, if I am doing it for a illegal person, I need to be careful about future while doing it.If we do something drastically wrong and get caught then we will lose our job, which is our livelihood
FA:... as an operator or... If this is done...
R: There are some 3-4 of you, right?
FA: Yes, 3-4. If we are doing this and we keep doing it right, only then will we be able to continue.
FA: That's how we get work for 2 people... Like you have come... Otherwise how will we work?
R: See, they have nothing, nothing at all. So if they get Aadhar card, slowly they can get everything done
FA: Arre, we will get it done
FA: We get PAN card done, identification letters done
R: Will you do all that?
FA: I do only Aadhar card, whoever does PAN card I inform them. I have nothing to do with it
FA: I don't want anything to do with him. I will only speak to the boss... Bhai, it is for someone's good and I am not losing anything.
FA: when it is for someone's good, there is nothing for me to lose. Nor do we have any greed. Our greed is that their Aadhar card gets done, that's it
FA: The one who makes PAN card, it is his job to make the PAN cards
R: Is this [the office of] Aadhaar?
A person: Yes.
R: Is threre Aadhar card here? Where is the Aadhaar card being made?
Mohit (M): ID proof
R: We want to make his Aadhaar card.
M: ID proof?
R: [We] don't have
M: It cannot be done without ID
S: See if something can work out
M: Where are you from? What's the address?
S: I'm from Kasabpura
M: You have no ID proof at all?
S: See if you can do something
M: We need an ID proof, be it from any place.
S: Bhai sahab, if I had one, I would have given it. It was never done for me and nobody got it done for me.
M: What do you do?
S: I am in a service job nearby
R: He doesn't have any Indian ID. He is a refugee.
Aditya (A): Refugee?
S: It has been many years. I have been living here for 10-15 years
A: I am also a refugee, bhai.
S: Where are you from?
A: I don't know that, but my grandparents were telling me.
R: These people are refugees here
A: We have been here for about 35 years, some 35-40 years
S: We have been here for 10,12 years
R: They are from outside, from Bangladesh.
A: It will be done.
R: So if there is nothing at all, how much will we have to pay?
A: See, when it is without an ID, you know that there are lots of problems. Everything has to done carefully
A: A letterhead will be made for you from our company. I will get it done
A: That will cost some money
R: What will the letterhead have?
A: The letterhead will be from our company. It will have your name and our company's.A: It will have my signature, my heads signature and his signature
R: Who is he?
A: SDM, will be in forward
A: Because we work under him. That is one. There will be 3 signatures and a letterhead. That will cost money
A: Plus the person who makes it without an ID, will charge. That money will be deducted from company
A: Because we cannot talk to the company directly. The company is based in Bangalore
A: It is not from here [Delhi], so money gets deducted. In all it will cost a thousand per person
A: What I am trying to tell you is, your address proof is taken care and we have our MLA here through whom we get things done. Since elections are around he needs people
A: We go through him. For example, if an ID is from outside of Delhi,
A: Once we get his letterhead, we get it done. There is a compromise. We have a good link with him
R: So it's a compromise.
A: We get a letterhead from him.
R: Who is this MLA?
A: MLA, we can do it from anyone. There are several; Lata Sodi is there, Virendra Babbar is there. Then there is Ratawal. Anyone will do, Ratawal is a big person.
R: Whom do you do it from?
A: We get it done from anyone depending on the nearest area
A: Like, for your Paharganj, the area nearby has Veerendra Babbar, Lata Sodi...Whoever lies nearby we speak to them, because we have all their numbers
R: It will be done?
A: It will be done.
R: And they will do it?
A: Sir, that is what I am telling you. They have link with us and we have link with them
R: ...because there is regular work...
A: Because there is regular work. They also get it done now. They come from here. They are in a high post
A: We make it from him. He signs on it. My name is written on the back; A: My name is Aditya, my name is written as a reference. And it gets done
A: If it is done without ID, the way it works is sir writes on a letterhead and so does a MLA. The ID is from here (sir) and the address from there (MLA)
A: All these people sitting here... they are brothers
R: So they write it?
A: They don't write it but we use their references... we have our references and request them.
R: And take money.
A: His boy does, not sir. We have to talk to his boy. If he wants to, he makes it. Otherwise, you have the minister Hari Yusuf (?).
A: His letterhead also works. His PA takes money.
A: In here, sometimes sir is in or out. That's when we go to the minister.
R: Yaar, we don't have any document. You have your headache..
A: You will need to give a photograph.
R: Photograph plus, you will have to pay a thousand rupees per case, right?
A: Photograph, and I will give you a letter to sign on. That is the letterhead I make.
S: We will sign on it, no worries.
A: Because letterhead... because your address will be taken.
S: We don't know where you will put the address from...
A: I will make the letterhead. That problem is on me.
R: We have to make UID Aadhar card based on an ID. He doesn't have anything, no documents proof.
R: The person we spoke to said that if we give Rs. 1,000 per case, they will take care of the documents.
M: He will make the documents.
R: So it will be done, right? No problem?
M: I will make it once he gives me the documents.
R: Okay, he will make the documents and give it to you. I hope there's no problem. He is from abroad.
M: If there are issues, we will give it to whatever address you give
R: R: So I can be carefree?
Asif Chaudhary (AC): You tell me now
R: Actually we want to get an Aadhar card done for him, he has nothing
AC: He doesn't have anything? That will be Rs. 500.
R: He is basically from outside. He is not from India
AC: Yes, we will make it.
Other person (OP): I have to make it for one for my boy. There are no proofs.
AC: That will be Rs. 500.
OP: I mean, I am talking about the boy.
AC: It is needed for everyone, anyone who has it.
OP: In Delhi itself, it is going on in a few places.
AC: It might be going on but nothing will be done without proof. We will need to make proofs.
AC: And when they will make proofs, they will charge something for it. Our charges are fixed at Rs. 200 and the one who makes it takes Rs. 300.
AC: It is not going on any more. Forget it. Remember that it is not being made anymore.
AC: Earlier it was being done free of cost. Now it costs Rs. 200.
R: Oh, so you charge Rs. 200 to make it.
AC: For every person.
S: If there are documents, Rs.200
AC: 200 rupees.
S: And without documents?
R: It is going on for free everywhere.
AC: It is not happening anymore. That's over. Now it's privatized.
OP: Like in our village...
R: You... oh, so you are not working for Aadhar
AC: No, no. We are private. We are a franchise
S: See, I am telling the truth. If I wanted to lie, I could have said anything. I stay in Delhi.
AC: No, yours will be done
S: Without this, it won't be made...
AC: If you are saying this... now that you have told the truth.
R: We have told the truth.
AC: People are bothered because of frauds.
R: So I told you, no? I knew that there is no point in lying.
AC: That's okay, you can check it out and submit it soon. I will also call up non ID IO specially and tell him.
R: There is no point in lying, that's why I told you in the begining that he is from Bangladesh. And his [card] has to be done
AC: It will done through the office directly.
R: So how much will it cost?
AC: Pay as you feel right
R: No, you tell me.
AC: Arre give as you feel right... like I said.
R: So we have to give 500?
Other (O): Give Rs. 500. You don't have to give anything. It will be done.
R: So I won't need to get anything, no documents? The rest is all your headache.
R: Arre yaar, we have to make an Aadhar Card.
Rahul (Ra): Yes.
Ra: Bhai, I have seen to it, told him he is from Nepal.
R: Bhaisaab is refusing, he says that he won't do it. One of our friends has already done it from here.
Ra: Bhai, Nepal won't work out. India will.
R: Arre he must not have mentioned that he was from Nepal. He hadn't submitted anything... I told everything honestly.
Ra: Bhai, he is from Nepal. It will be Rs. 5000. See it.
R: 5000 for one?
Ra: No, one for you and your wife.
R: So you will do two for 5,000? He doesn't have much. He earns about Rs. 8000 in a garments shop.
Ra: Bhai, he is from Nepal. You can see he is not from India.
R: Okay. So we don't have any documents.
Ra: Yes, but I will make it... the documents.
Other person (OP): ...
Ra: Photo id.
R: You will make the documents and all?
Ra: That I will do
R: We will bring nothing and we will only get our photo clicked
R: Only to get photo clicked... Please reduce the cost a bit
Ra: See how we can work it out.
R: Bhai, he earns about Rs. 8000 as salary. If I give you 5000...
OP: It's back here?
Ra: Yes, you go from here...
OP: I have to go out?
Ra: Think about it. You are getting an Indian ID.
R: That is true, an Indian ID is being made...
R: An Indian ID is being made but isn't 5000 a bit much? Hm?
Ra: Give 100-200 less, what else can be done?
R: Take 3000. Hm?
R: Not 4000.
Unknown person (UP): Not 4000.
R: You will take 4000?
R: What documents will you use?
Ra: Who, me?
Ra: Leave that to me.
R: Still. We won't be in trouble, right?
R: That will definitely be original, right?
Ra: Like original. The way everyone gets it done, you will also get it
R: Will we get a receipt?
Ra: You will get the receipt.
R: Tomorrow itself we will get? When we make it?
Ra: You get the receipt when you click the photo.
R: After getting the receipt, the original won't be rejected, right?
R: Does it get rejected later after you submit the documents?
Ra: No. When there are problems in photo or fingerprint then it is rejected or when a duplicate is made.
R: When the documents are not adequate, that doesn't get rejected?
Ra: it does not get rejected by document. That is what we submit ourselves.
R: So you will make it and submit.
R: So how much will you charge? Please tell me... If someone asks me how much we paid, what do I tell him?
Ra: Why will anyone ask you?
R: Nobody will ask.
Ra: Nobody will ask you.
R: The bosses won't ask if there is an investigation?
Ra: No. The investigations in this... no one will ask.
Ra: I will put it in as I see fit.
Ra: Look at how many IDs...
R: You must have done this earlier. Do it the same way now. Okay?
R: So you will charge Rs. 4000 for two Aadhar cards without documents. Okay? You are asking for Rs. 4000. We will see to reducing the rest. Okay?
R: So when do I come?
Ra: Whenever you want to
R: I will come in the evening or tomorrow. Will it be open tomorrow? It's Saturday.
Ra: It's open.
R: Okay. Your name, brother?
Kapil (K): So you have no proof.
R: No. I have no proofs.
S: Everyone has got it done in the village, only I am left to get the UID card. It has been 2-3 months after my brother's marriage.
S: We hadn't paid any attention. Now we have to make ration cards.
Other person (OP): Fill up a form...
S: Everyone has one including my uncle.
K: I'm not saying no. It will be done.
S: Everyone has one...
K: Tell me the number.
R: How much do we have to pay?
K: [gestures] One thousand.
R: One thousand? ...It will be done, right? Will there be any problems? Which documents will you submit?
K: We will take care of that.
R: I mean, we won't face any problems, no? You will manage everything.
S: After how many days will it be done?
K: Within 15 days.
S: Within 15 days?
K: Yes, within 15 days.
R: It shouldn't be a problem for us later
K: No. You will go away... You get this UID on an enrollment number.
R: I didn't understand that.
K: Like here's your enrollment number. You will get it only after your Aadhar card is done.
This is given in the office only after it is done. Then we will give it to you as soon as possible.
R: So you will give the slip immediately? That means that the card is done.
K: Aadhar card is done. You can make any ID based on the slip.
R: So we can do anything with it
K: You can do anything with the slip.
R: Once we get the slip, that means we can do anything?
K: You can do anything.
S: Okay. Will that work for a ration card?
K: Why will it not work in ration card?
R: It will work everywhere.
K: It will work everywhere. You will get Aadhar card within 15 days.
R: There one more case. My brother is not here but I have his photo. Can you still make it?
S: He has a brother who has gone to Bhopal for work.
K: Then...bring it here. We will check it out.
K: We will check in front of the camera whether it works.
It should be clear, clean, no?
K: If it is clear...
R: I have bought his photo. Should I show it now?
K: He will come with you, right?
R: Arre check it out. We will know whether it works or not.
K: They can deny him...
K: It will be done.
R: It will be done through photos? There will be no problems, right? And fingerprints?
K: I will get it done
R: Oh, you will use yours?
K: Not mine but someone else's.
K: Will get it from Someone else
R: So you will use someone else's fingerprint.
K: Yes, yes.
R: It will not be a problem in the future?
K: I will make the card... Only a number is needed. Nothing else is needed
R: How much do we have to pay for it? Will it be done in Rs. 500?
K: No. [gestures] One thousand.
R: Oh, so one thousand separately.
Aryan (Ar): We are charging Rs. 1460 here.
R: You charge 1460 to get it done?
Ar: For one ID.
R: Will you make it?
Ar: I will do it immediately.
Ar: I will do it immediately, the slip. After one month, you will get the card here.
R: We have to make it for two... for two people.
Ar: I have told you the rate for one... I just made 4 [cards] without ID for uncleji. That's our job, so I am telling you
R: So you are not from Aadhaar?
Ar: I am from Aadhaar. We get some commission. I mean...
R: Aadhaar has given this job to your company?
Ar: Yes, all the data. Here, nobody makes without an ID.
Ar: What we do is, we have a few guys at sales office in Bangalore. I had made my Aadhaar card from Bangalore. My card was cancelled thrice. I went to Bangalore and made my Aadhaar.
Then I took a contract from Bangalore. It has been 3 years now.
R: So they make an exception for you?
Ar: My job is public dealing and tech support.
R:So here, you look after the documents and everything.
S: So everything is in your hands.
Ar: Public deling, tech support...
S: So what you get is on the side. The company pays you on the side.
Ar: We don't get money.
S: Do you get that?
R: You must be salaried, right?
Ar: We are on a contract.
R: Some NGO must have been given the contract.
Ar: Suppose you get the contract. You will employ 50 boys. Some are getting Rs. 50,000, some Rs. 40,000, some Rs. 70,000,
...the one who supervises everything gets paid Rs. 80,000... That's how it is with me. I look after the public dealing and tech support. My wages are different.
S: Please reduce the cost. I have two
Ar: Tell me and I will do it. I already told you, there are many people here including brokers.
S: Take 2000 for two.
S: 2000 for two.
Ar: There are different charges for those with a photo.
Ar: You see the fingerprints here? That I will have to do through biometric in Bangalore.
Ar: You will have to give me your photo, name, address. You will give me his photo and also send one on my mail id.
R: Okay. How will that work?
Ar: That's from biometric. The photo that you will send me on my mail, I will scan it and put it on the slip along with your name, address, as you give...
R: How will you do the fingerprints?
R: How will you do the fingerprints and all?
Ar: We might have to take fingerprints through biometric if you can't come at all.
R: What do you mean by 'biometric'?
Ar: Our machine also has biometric fingerprint.
R: No, but whose fingerprint will be used? Yours or mine?
Ar: That's a biometric fingerprint, from the machine.
R: Something the machine has...
Ar: Hm. Our biometric fingerprints are at Bangalore. Ever heard of people having 2-3 Aadhaar cards?
Ar: I am the only person to have three Aadhaar cards
R: Even I know many people who have 2-2 Aadhaar.
Ar: If you show me 3 Aadhaar on one name and address...
R: I know a person with two Aadhaar.
Ar: If it is through only one fingerprint, I will appreciate
R: Yes, I know two such people.
R: Can you please explain what is biometric?
Ar: In our computer, there is a biometric machine for the eyes. Fingers, eyes, everything is biometric.
Ar: If there is any problem in a person's hand or his hand is injured, how will the fingerprints work? That has been done in biometric.
R: So the UID has done it, the company.
Ar: We don't use it on anyone. We use it in exceptional cases. We are forbidden from doing that.
S: It is banned?
Ar: It is banned.
S: If we give the photo, it will be done, right? There won't be any problems?
Ar: That I will do
S: Will it be genuine?
Ar: You have trust in me
R: Bhai sahab, even he is from UID
LB Paswan (LB): Let me tell you he is not from UID. Don't take my name.
R: Where is he from?
LB: He is a broker, do you get it. He flips from one head to another, that's his job. (He fools people)
R: He has nothing. He is from abroad.
LB: Where is he from? What's your name?
S: My name is Rahul.
LB: You must have something.
S: I have nothing.
R: Actually, bhai, this is a Pakistani Hindu who has migrated.
LB: That's the biggest problem.
R: I am telling you a straight fact.
LB: Don't mind me saying this but I am asking for it (the ID) because there is a lot of problems with Mohammadans.
S: But I am a Hindu from Pakistan.
LB: I'm just saying. That's why I said 'Don't mind'.
S: It has been 8-10 years for me here.
R: He had migrated... identifying himself as a Pakistani Hindu. He doesn't have anything [ID], he and his wife.
S: My wife is pregnant. I have a job here.
LB: So how much is he asking for him? 2000?
S: Yes, he is asking for 2000.
LB: He is asking for a lot
S: So you please do it.
LB: Is he asking for 2000 per head?
R: Yes, 2000 for one
S: He was telling us a lot of ways. We are not understanding it
R: He was saying, 900 goes here, 300 there.
S: The one who does it
LB: No, he does pay us.
R: He pays you?
LB: Our charge is 1000 for without ID. Don't tell anyone outside.
S: No no, this is between us.
LB: 1000 rupees. The entire thing.
LB: Yes, bhai, tell me. Mummy's thing is not done? Papers are not complete? Did you get it written from the MLA?
Other Person (OP): He isn't willing.
LB: Why won't he write? Tell him that you want to get Aadhaar card. He will write for you
LB Paswan (LB): There are two IDs na?
Source (S): Yes, one is my wife.
LB: How many people in total now, tell me..
S: One Me and my wife
R: He will go and get his wife. I have come to speak. He can't speak very well when he has to, so I am here to speak for him.
S: What do we have to do?
LB: Do one thing, come tomorrow. Because if we go now then....
S: Okay, I will come tomorrow. Let me know.
LB: Come tomorrow. Let me clearly tell you, don't meet him.
S: No, I will meet you tomorrow.
LB: I'll come to meet you. And, he is asking for 2000 rupees, right? He is asking 2000 for one? Give 3000 for two and take it right away
R: That's too much.
LB: I have told you. Listen to me. I will not make yours here because he will be here. He will tell and no one will make it for you.
S: No, we will come at a time when-
R: Where will you get it made?
LB: Behind. Or get it done here. No problem.
S: We will sit here quietly, you can do the rest. I will be sitting over there at the back.
LB: Definitely. You can check on the net.
R: There won't be any problem na?
LB: No, no..we are sitting here itself
R: But he will become Indian after the ID is made, right?
LB: Yes, but just show me once something at all
R: Bhai, if I had anything, I would have shown it to you beforehand.
...You tell me, if any person had any documents with him, why would he come to you and request in the first place? Why would he spend money?
LB: Fine, whatever you feel like paying me above 2000, give it to me. Okay? It anyway comes up to 1000 each.
...I am clearly telling you, whatever you feel like giving above 2000. Whatever it is 2100, 2200 or 2500..anything you feel like giving.
...I will make it for you here. Sir, listen. Write your name properly, your address, your date, your phone number and your date of birth.Tell him not to do it
LB:Okay then. Tomorrow, come at the same time.
S: It's a straight forward thing, let me tell you absolute genuine thing
Mohd. Anis (MA): Bring me atleast one document so that I can do something further.
Reporter (R): If I had any, why would I come to you, sir? I would have gone directly.
S: In our Nand Nagri, it was being done like this
MA: I know. Not just Nand Nagri, it is being done in all of Delhi. May it be Delhi North or Delhi central.
Every where it is being done. It isn't that. But you need atleast one document.
MA: Tell me one thing, when there is so much value given to documents-
S: We have just come from out of the country
MA: It doesn't matter that you have come from out. Today, all over India, there is an absolute need for documents
R: I have already told you the fact that we are from outside India, right? He has settled here.
MA: Yes, it is also the fact that you are from out of the country.
S: Yes, we are from Burma.
R: Straightforwad thing is, I am from here...
S: At our place, even Seemapuri has voter-
R: I am from here but he is from outside the country. I am openly telling you the facts.
S: You obviously know what has happened in Burma.
R: Because if you are doing the work, you must know the truth.
R: Yes, it is as simple as that.
S: You may know what has happened to Muslims in Burma
MA: I know. All of that keeps happening.
S: I am a refugee. Please do this for me. You will be doing me a huge favour.
MA: Sit down. Let me see.
MA: While monetary favors have their own place, the biggest thing is trust.
...The field that I am in today, if I go in the opposite direction, my staff will go before me. What I am saying is, this is Hindustan.
Shoot somebody outside, go to a police station, put your hand in your pocket, put a bundle of 50,000,
...say that you have come after shooting a man and you don't want to get locked up.
...But it also isn't like everything must be corruption.
S: That is true. Not everything has to be..
MA: Because in the country there is definitely one such person..
S: That fact is true..
Other: What is the last timing for here?
MA: Last timing? I am thinking if this should be done and you're talking about last time
S: Rozi roti par laat maar rahe ho inki yaar
(You are trashing his livelihood)
Vijay (V): So what do you want to give?
S: You tell us whatever you feel like, and we will give it.
V: You tell yours
S: We haven't brought the money. We will bring the money and give it to you.
V: You tell me how much..
S: You tell us how much it will cost, we are not telling you.
V: You do not have even one document?
S: We don't have anything. See, we work in the factory. I work at Mandoli.
He works at Jhilmil. We do not have anything with us. Our salary is around 5 to 5.5 thousand.
V: I will tell one rate, you tell whatever you want to give. 1000 rupees for both of you
R: Both will be done in a 1000 rupees and nothing else we have to give you?
S: Okay, alright
V: Fill the form.
S: Okay we will fill the form.
S: We have come from outside.
Raj (Raj): That isn't the thing. Give me some ID.
S: We will pay whatever is needed. I don't have any kind of id whatsoever, which is why I have come. For some kind of identification..
Raj (Raj): What?
S: With this, I will get identification documents done. I don't have any proof. I am not from this country.
Reporter (R): Basically we are refugees.
Raj: Arre no
S: Yes, we've come here from Nepal
Raj: If you have come from Nepal..
R: Arre we have been living here for the past 10 years
Raj: No, no. Get it written from some gazetted officer and I will make it for you.
R: Arre, if we knew anyone who could do this for us, why would we come to you?
Raj: That may be true but I cannot help you with this.
S: We are ready to pay you what you ask for to help us with this..
Raj: It isn't about paying me anything, sir. It's about rules and regulations
R: Look, it's quite simple. If you can help us, do so or else refuse to do it. As simple as that.
S: Yes, or else we'll see..GTB or something...no tension as such.
Raj: You are a residents of Nepal?
S: Yes, from Nepal. A place called Ganga Nagar. Nepal and India are on either side of the border.
...Side by side. Like Sundar Nagari and Bhopura.
Raj: Do one thing, meet me after lunch, I'll get it done. Get your photographs with you. See, you will have to get it written by a gazetted officer.
...Get a photo each and I will get it written by an officer and get it done.
R: So, it will get done today?
Raj: Yes. I will get it done
Raj: Come by 2 pm. I'll get it written by the gazetted officer through rules and regulations. It will be done. Okay?
Raj: And pay me whatever you think is fit.
R: But still how much..
Raj: You don't even have to give me anything if you don't want to. There's no problem, why are you fretting..
R: He and his wife need to get UID made..Aadhaar..and they don't have any id.
R.Kumar (RK): On what address?
R: It's a New Delhi address.
RK: Whose address is this?
R: It belongs to him. He has rented it.
S: It isn't on rent. They are servant quarters.
RK: The one who has rented it is not going to object?
S: Others have also made one for themselves
RK: It isn't like that. If there is an objection, then there will be a problem.
R: No, no. There will not be an objection. The post master will receive it chatting karke
RK: If it goes to you directly, people ask how you have got it made directly..if there is questioning..
S: The others have got it done
R: That's his headache na. How he decides to receive it or not receive it from the postmaster.
S: Since the others have had it made as well, that is why I have come to you.
R: But they do not have documents or anything.
RK: Understood. Tell me what to do..
R: You tell us what we should do.
RK: No, it will be better if you speak first before I say anything...you first.
R: Arre no. You see..
S: It will be done?
RK: It will be.
R: It will be done, na. All the documents that are necessary are not with us. But you'll take care of it na?
RK: Yeah, I will take care of it.
R: How much money will it take?
RK: 2 to 2.5
RK: 2 to 2.5
R: 2 to 2.5 thousand?
RK: Somewhere in between
R: Between 2 to 2.5? For both of them? So both will be done for 2.5 thousand?
R: Isn't that a bit much?
RK: You reduce it a little then. Tell me then, how much..?
R: Give us the same rate you have given for those who came to you before us.
RK: If I get caught, all 7000 rupees of my salary will be stopped.
R: How much?
RK: 7000 rupees salary will be taken away. I will be taking a risk for the month.
So tell me one last time how much will you pay. I will take it into consideration.
R: What I am saying that you people have made it for 700 here..
RK: There isn't anyone. The earlier officer might have done, I don't know..
S: There is this neighbour..where I live now..
RK: Rest you tell me then what will you give?
R: People have gotten it done at 700 here.
RK: No one's made it for that much. If you want to get it done for 500 rupees, I'll get it done. You tell me.
If you want to get it done now, I'll get it done. Or you can get it done tomorrow
R: So, if we want to get it done today, we'll get the receipt today?
RK: Yes, you'll get it right away.
R: What documents will you attach?
RK: Leave that to me. It will be done and given in your hands, I give you that much guarantee. Within 15 to 20 days, it will be generated on the net.
R: And three months to be delivered at home?
RK: It won't come at home. If you take it from the internet, it will be valid then too. The unique id number is on there too.
R: Okay, so three months at home.
RK: Do you remember the address to which this must be made?
S: I will get it written.
RK: Give me the address, I will get the documents made. And get a photo of yours and your wife
R: Do you remember the address? Or will you write and get it on Monday?
S: I'll get it with me on Monday morning
RK: I'll get it done by an MLA or the municipal corporation. Pakka, I'll get the job done. Don't worry.
R: Pakka all the work will be done right?
RK: Yes, with guarantee, yaar.
R: Bhaiya tell me how much will it cost?
Sadam (D): Talk to me on the phone.
R: It will be done right?
D: Yes, it will be done. Talk to me on the phone.
R: Yaar, actually, he...Listen to me yaar..
R: He has to go some place. So tell me how much it will cost because if not, we'll adjust this from somewhere else.
S: Tell us..
D: I already told you. Now you can see I am..
R: How much time will it take?
R: How much time? We don't have any documents.
D: Come, I'll tell you right away
R: One thousand rupees for one
R: There are two.
D: Let me talk to him..
R: Talk to us. We have to go get it na...
D: From where?
R: From... I will have to arrange the money na. Actually he is a peon in my office, so that's why I told him that let's get it done. He is a peon in my office.
D: In which?
R: In Noida call centre.
D: You work in a call center?
R: Yes. So he said sir please get this done for me. I know he is a good chap. I said I'll take him along
...Nothing else. These people are refugees. So they don't have anything here..no documents. But Aadhaar-
D: So then how did they come here?
R: They just came. Anything happens in India.
D: Speak to him.
R: You only tell us, yaar, what's the problem? If you tell us, what is going to happen?
D: Never mind.
R: You tell us.
D: Speak to him.
R: Alright I will speak to him. You tell me, I am sitting with you. Arre one minute come here..I don't know what it is...
R: He is saying he will get it done but he is asking me to speak to you.
Other man (O): I told you what is to be done..
R: Arre yaar, reduce the amount a little..
O: Tell me then because two people are sittting by.. in the line. Send them on Sunday.
R: 1500 for two
R: Bhai has said 1500 for two. You will get all the document work done.
R: We will not get anything. We'll bring it on Monday. Okay right? The rest you see to it. In how many days will the Aadhaar arrive?
D: 3 months.
R: In three months at home?
D: It comes home via post and if not then a message will arrive on your net..phone. And then it will be generated by that time.
O: He will get it done...definitely he will get it done properly.
R: And how many days will it come on the net?
D: Whenever it arrives on the mobile, it will be generated on the net.
R: Oh so as soon as it generates, the message arrives on the net?
D; Yes, yes..
R: You will give us the receipt right?
D: Yes, I will give the receipt to you.
R: Chalo, okay then. Photos will be needed?
D: No, no. Nothing.
R: So I just bring the man, then?
R: Bhai saheb, I want to get Aadhaar card made and I don't have anything with me.
Sajid (J): You don't have any document ?
R: No, nothing. We are refugees. We live in Aish Bagh, behind the stadium.
J: You must have some document..
R: I don't have any.
J: Where are you from?
R: Bangladesh. Don't have any documents here and have to get Aadhar made. People that I know have had theirs made from here.
...I have come from far. They said I can get the card made here. Just pay a little amount, whatever is asked for, and the card will be made.
J: You might have some id of Bangladesh with you?
R: How do I use that id in this country? The day I do, they will drive me away from this country.
J: Tell me the id. What do you do?
R: I work in a shop here.
J: What kind of shop?
R: In a clothes shop
J: Which one? Here, in New Market?
You don't have any ID, how do I get it made?
A fellow got his made from you without any ID.
We get it done but...
Who told you about this?
A fellow who had it made from you, Salim.
He said- go there, give money, get it done.
We have to prepare the documents too...
We have to bribe some and get the documents made
Then get mine made too, the same way
I'll pay whatever it takes
What is your name?
R: Rashid Ahmed
J: But, keep this to yourself
R: Obviously, bhai. Why will I get into trouble myself?
J: Keep this to yourself and it will be done.
R: So, I don't have to give you any documents, you will take care of everything
J: Alright. Or else I will get a gazetted officer to sign it and saying that you are in relation and get it made.
R: How much will it cost?
R: How much money will I have to give?
J: 250 rupees
R: In 250 rupees everything will be made? Right now?
J: I will give you a paper. Write your name and details in it, give your address here
R: Documents etc. you will take care of right? I won't have to do anything?
J: Yes, all that we get it and provide
R: I just have to give 250 rupees? So he'll make it or will you?
J: It will be done there itself
R: Are you from Aadhaar card or is he?
J: Who me? I am in charge here
R: So you are in charge, he is the operator?
J: The five of us work, but the thing is, there are a lot of machines I handle four districts. There is Bhopal, then there is Raisen, Chhindwara and Mandla
R: 2 or 4 more people need to get this done. It will be done, right? This will remain just among us
J: No. See, there was a case in Noida, you must have heard
J: What happened in Noida was that, a fellow made his Aadhaar this way, in relation. But the police came to know and the news channel also came to know
...That is what I am afraid of.
R: Arre bhaiya, the day we get caught is the day they send us back. We are more scared
J: We do it for our people thinking chalo yaar it will be beneficial for India..but I don't want any trouble there.
...That is why I am afraid. I am dong my daily work and earning my livelihood..
R: So you must be under contract right?
J: We are based on salary here
R: Which company?
R: The one who does Smart chips..?
J: There are smart chips here
R: I was reading in the paper
J: The companies working here are Vakrangee smart chip, Atishay info tech and our Netlink is also there. There is Union Bank, Central Bank. This is working through banks
R: Then the gazetted officer will write it?
J: When I speak to him, he will. I have been in the field for three years now.
R: So, you must have gotten it done earlier also. So I will get the receipt now? Okay. Okay, after how long should I come back?
J: The four of you come together
R: Okay. I will call them and make all the four together then, what else. 1000 rupees for four of us
...I will call you and come. Give me your number.
J: Where do you people live?
R: Aish bagh
J: Where in Aish Bagh?
R: Behind the stadium. Give me your number, I shall call and come
J: Do one thing..you all live in a room?
J: So, I'll come there in the evening. At your room
R: Okay. So when will you make it then?
J: I will leave here by 5-5:30. And whenever you get there..
R: When will you make it?
J: We'll do it there itself right
R: You will come to the room and make it on the machine?
J: The machine fits in my bag. Get the print another day from here
R: This is really great. You will come home and make it. You will bring your machine. You live there?
J: It is my in-law's place. My grandparents' place is so far
R: Right. Okay, give me your number and I will phone you
J: Yes, take it. 8871-but I will tell you first
R: It will stay with me. 8871..?
R: 125..What's your name bhai-jaan?
R: I don't have an ID
Suraj(U): How can the card be made without the id?
R: See if you can do something..
U: [nodding] No
U: You need a Voter I card, yaar
R: I don't have one. I need two cards made. For me and my wife
U: If you could have had me talk to him, I would have got the work done
R: Arre yaar I don't have his number na. Tell me. I'll get my wife also
U: You have no ID at all?
R: No, nothing.
U: Ask him once, how much does he charge..then come here. Because for those without ID we charge 5
U: Rs. 500 for those without ID
R: You'll take 500 rupees and the responsibility of the ID will be yours?
R: It will be genuine right?
U: Definitely genuine, yaar. Aadhar card will come to your house and ask him..Ravi..he has been coming to me ever since I have been in DC office
R: DC office meaning?
U: Our headquarters is in DC office in Geeta Colony. That's our office. I was there first
...There's a lot of chaos and crowd there. So I came here
R: So you used to make the IDs like this earlier also? Whatever you made you have done them for Rs. 500
U: [nodding] Yes
R: There are two people who need. Reduce the price a little...
U: That we will see. Come first at least..
R: So, I'll get my wife and come? When will I get the receipt and all?
U: You will get the receipt the very next day. Aadhar will come to your home or download it in 50 days
R: Download it in 50 days?
U: You can download from the net
R: Actually we are refugees na. We don't have anything here
U: No problem
R: We are from Bangladesh
U: Don't worry. It will all get done. This is India, yaar. What is not possible here.Everything is possible
R: We have people like you to do it for us. The thing is, you've been making the cards for 500 reduce a little for us
...reduce the price a little for us
U: The problem is that this doesn't go into our pockets. The place where we hand in your data, the higher authorities, it goes there
R: Oh so the money goes to the top? Or do you keep all of it?
U: All of it goes to the top. Only then do we manage to get them done
R: It means all the document all will be done by you, right? We don't have to worry about anything right?
U: It is not us, it goes further. You don't have to worry regarding regarding this
R: So we just come and get our photo taken and give our thumbprints and you will take care of everything?
R: So when do I come?
U: Come whenever
R: Shall I come today, then?
U: Yes, come today
R: I will get the receipt today right?
U: You will get it tomorrow
R: You will print the receipt tomorrow and give me?
R: Bhaisaab, your name?