Encounter with TV
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Summary: "Mass murders, fake encounter killings, brutal torture and rape, are an inseparable part of the state system in our country. Whether it is the government ruled by BJP or Congress, TDP, DMK or AIDMK, RJD or BJD, or the so-called Left like the CPI(M), or whichever party is in power, it basically relies on state terror and state sponsored terror to control the masses and to eliminate the opposition. The police, para-military forces and the Indian armed forces are all adept in staging fake encounters and committing indescribable atrocities whether it is on the revolutionaries and the struggling masses in Andhra Pradesh, Chattisgarh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Orissa, Bengal, Maharashtra, MP, UP, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, the national liberation fighters in Kashmir and North East, Muslims in various parts of the country, particularly in states such as Gujarat."
- from “Press Release on Gujarat Encounter Killings”, by Azad for the CPI(Maoist) on May 8, 2007
http://www.bannedthought.net/india/CPI-Maoist-Docs/
This is a collection of clips from various leading television news channels, put together by Alternative Law Forum.
Neetu Jain: In these dusty files of North block lie the answer to encounter cops and political patronage.
Neetu Jain: ...a module police act which states like Gujarat (would rather ?) ignore despite the Supreme court's orders.
Neetu Jain: Gujarat says, law and order is a state subject and therefore this order is against the federal structure of the constitution.
Neetu Jain: ...besides, creating a state security commission to instigate the police or politicians will create a parallel structure with no accountability, says Gujarat.
Neetu Jain: Rajasthan goes a step ahead and says that giving more independence to the police is not possible, as the police due to its very nature, needs to be kept on a tight leash.
There is a question of diverse machinery- if there is a parallel machinery... adopt this, in preference to the other.
Neetu Jain: While most states have fallen in line and complied with the Apex court's orders in some form or the other, some of the bigger states refuse to see the writing on the wall.
Neetu Jain: It is not just Gujarat and Rajasthan that have been dragging their feet on police reforms, but even states like UP, and Congress-ruled Maharashtra- home of Union Minister Shivraj Patil.
Neetu Jain: But just how much of a tight leash can politicians keep on the police, is something that will be decided during a contempt petition coming up before the Supreme Court, later this month.
Neetu Jain: In New Delhi, Neetu Jain.
V K Shashikumar: In September 2003, Narender Singh Dangawas, commanding the BSF's 42nd Battalion,...
V K Shashikumar: ...claimed to have killed Ismail Bhai, a Jaish-e-Mohammad militant from Karachi.
A J&K police officer: "Dead body inhone laya aur that body was not identified"
"(he brought the dead body and it was not identified)" an officer with J&K police says.
V K Shashikumar: He was recommended for the President's police medal for gallantry. But soon after, Constable Subhash Rathod blew the whistle against his commanding officer.
V K Shashikumar: He said the dead man was an innocent Kashmiri and the killing was a fake encounter.
V K Shashikumar: For instance, Narender Singh in his situation report said that Constable Bashir Ahmed fired 68 rounds during the encounter. But Bashir denies that outright.
Bashir Ahmed Baba (constable with the 42nd Battalion of the BSF): Us time jab fire hua to main nikal gaya Usmarag mein, wahan maine chai layi, langar mein gaya chai banane ke liye,(When the firing happened, I was in Usmarag, making tea!)
V K Shashikumar: Bashir says he was just not there at the encounter spot. In fact when Narender Singh claimed that 66 ASF soldiers took part in the encounter, this investigation has evidence that suring BSF's internal enquiries, atleast 47 soldiers denied being there.
V K Shashikumar: Telephone conversations recorded by our BSF insider, avaliable exclusively with the special investigation, nails the cover up.
BSF Insider:
Yeh jo…jo Narendra Singh ne jo farzi mutbher kiya tha na (It's about the face encounter involving Narendra Singh...)
Ganesh Kumar Chaudhari (Constable, 42nd Battalion, BSF):
Haan. Hum to operation main the hi nahin (Yes, but we were not even there in the operation.)
BSF Insider:
Achcha, usne poocha tha kya aap kahan duty the karke? (Ok, but he had asked where you were posted then?)
Ganesh:
Haan.. main bataya tha… gate pe duty kiya (I told them I was on duty at the gate.)
BSF Insider:
Aapne kya statement diya hai? (What statement did you give [to the inquiry])?
Jogi:
Main nahi tha usmein, main toh bol diya main nahi tha. (I told them I was not there...)
BSF Insider:
Matlab aapka naam to Narendra Nath Singh ne daal rakha tha na? (This means Narendra put in your name fraudulently?)
Jogi:
Haan likha toh tha, lekin jab mujhe statement dene ke liya bulaya na, toh maine bola, sir main to nahin tha usmein. (He did write my name. But when I was called to give my statement, I said sir I was not present there.)
V K Shashikumar: Inspite of this damning evidence against him, Narender Singh has survived 5 internal BSF inquires.
V K Shashikumar: His report is full of self praise.
...Yet all pictures of the encounter are missing which even his colleagues find laughable.
Gehlote:
Usne sab computer ke data delete kar diye the. (He had deleted all the data from the computer.) ...
baaki operation ke khoob photo lage hain… to us operation ki photo kyun nahi hain? (When the photos of all other operations are still there, why are photos of this operation missing?)
V K Shashikumar: According to official records our Pakistani Jaish-E-Mohhamed terrorist, Ismailbhai is buried in this graveyard.
V K Shashikumar: But is he really a Pakistani terrorist? Or a victim of a fake encounter?
V K Shashikumar: With Pradeepkumar Pandey and Camera man Sudesh Bhatt, V K Shashikumar in Srinagar.
Reporter: Voices protesting the arrest of this man, are getting louder,...
...and most of these voices are coming from the (moneyed ?) Marble lobby in Rajasthan.
Reporter: Marble traders here say that Alwar SP, MN Dinesh, and one of the accused in a fake encounter case, single-handedly helped them fend off the terror extortionists.
(Former President, Marble Association, Udaipur) O M Agarwal: I feel that his intention was not wrong. His intention was to punish the culprits and the criminals... not the good people.
Reporter: Sources say that Sohrabuddin was running an extortion racket with other extortionists in Udaipur who lived off the infuential marble lobby in Rajasthan.
Reporter: The traders claim the extortion threat was checked only after Dinesh took over the FT of Udaipur.
(President, Marble Processing Association, Udaipur) Prabhas Rajgharia: When he was not here, some other officers were there.. many senior people in our marble industry, who are very well placed, received threatening calls from some anti-social elements and from one terrorist also.
When he came here, he joined this office in Udaipur.
Reporter: The traders are now demanding Dinesh's release.
Prabhas Rajgharia: Demand from the government that they should look after... that the Home Ministry should look after this matter and release him honorably. His honour should be respected as our interest.
Reporter: With the marble lobby's role in the Sohrabuddin case under scrutiny, the ruling BJP at Rajasthan is likely to be under the scanner.
Reporter: The proximity of the section of the party to the marble traders is far from covert.
(?) Jaipur... in New Delhi... Saransh Sugandh.
Reporter: Well back in India, of course as you just heard, the MP's are protesting in Delhi now after a startling submission by the Gujarat government to the Supreme court, that encounter victim, Sohrabuddin Sheikh's wife, Kausar Bi, may have been killed as well.
Reporter: CNN-IBN spoke to her brother Raiz Imam Jain who says that the police haven't given him any information about his sister. The family alleges hat she was also killed by the police since she was an eyewitness to the killing of her husband.
Raiz: She was innocent. She was murdered. But we don't even have a dead body.
Neetu Jain: In these dusty files of North block lie the answer to encounter cops and political patronage....a module police act which states like Gujarat (would rather ?) ignore despite the Supreme court's orders.Gujarat says, law and order is a state subject and therefore this order is against the federal structure of the constitution.besides, creating a state security commission to instigate the police or politicians will create a parallel structure with no accountability, says Gujarat.Rajasthan goes a step ahead and says that giving more independence to the police is not possible, as the police due to its very nature, needs to be kept on a tight leash.
"There is a question of diverse machinery- if there is a parallel machinery... adopt this, in preference to the other."
Neetu Jain: While most states have fallen in line and complied with the Apex court's orders in some form or the other, some of the bigger states refuse to see the writing on the wall. It is not just Gujarat and Rajasthan that have been dragging their feet on police reforms, but even states like UP, and Congress-ruled Maharashtra- home of Union Minister Shivraj Patil. But just how much of a tight leash can politicians keep on the police, is something that will be decided during a contempt petition coming up before the Supreme Court, later this month.
In New Delhi, Neetu Jain.
Clip one is played again.
... of encounter.
When Rajasthan government rallied behind Alwar SP alias Dinesh in the Gujarat fake encounter case, it stood out in stark contrast to the way in which the other BJP-ruled neighbouring state dealt with its officers.
Chief Minister Vasundhara Raje is believed to be closely tracking the matter. She is said to have lodged her reservations with Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi over the manner in which Dinesh was arrested.
The government is now planning to provide legal support to Dinesh and fellow officials are vouching for his integrity.
(IG (Rural), Jaipur) B R Gwala: A person like Dinesh cannot kill a man for Supari (contract to kill)! People don't believe something like that. It's ridiculous! He is a man of high integrity.
Officials say Dinesh has a good track record and has been successful in bringing down the crime rate as the officer in charge of challenging districts like Karauli, Jhunjhunu, Sawai Madhopur and Udaipur.
State Home Minister Gulab Chand Kataria and DGP AS Gill, who had gone to Ahmedabad on a 'fact finding' visit, say the government will try its best to help an officer they say was not even present at the encounter site.
Rajasthan government is now granting a stay on the report of criminal cases filed against Sohrabuddin Sheikh.
Something they believe will legally help out Dinesh MN, the officer that government claims is one of its prizes. In Jaipur, Swati.
Rajdeep: Hello and welcome to Big News where we focus every week on the big story of the week by newsmakers. Let's kickstart the show with the headlines on Big News.
Rajdeep: The Gujarat Fake encounter killings put the Narendra Modi government in a spot. Was it just a police job or were they acting on the orders of their political bosses?
Rajdeep: Are other families like Ishrat Jehan also a victim of this fake police encounter? Is it time for all states now to implement police reforms?
Rajdeep: Well, on a day when D G Vanzara broke his silence and said that he is not guilty, an Ahmedabad court has extended the police remand of three IPS officers, including Mr Vanzara, till May 8.
Rajdeep: The prosecution claimed that their case against the three officers is now stronger then ever. They presented some more details of Kausarbi's murder, which is the latest of the grizzly secrets that have tumbled out of Vanzara's house of horrors.
Rajdeep: But there still are more questions than answers, as Asan Khan now reports.
Rajdeep: This man, DG Vanzara has been the center of what has become a major controversy that threatens to go well beyond the Gujarat's police leadership.
Rajdeep: An IPS promotee, Vanzara was for the last few years seen as a symbol of Nrendra Modi's tough law and order machinery.
Rajdeep: During his tenure Vanzara has overseen as many as nine encounters, which have resulted in 15 deaths.
Rajdeep: With each killing his stature within the police force only seems to rise.
Rajdeep: Today, as the details of the fake encounters emerge, the same officer finds himself behind bars.
Rajdeep: Its not just Sohrabuddin, a known extortionist, who was killed – his wife Kauserbi and the third witness to the crime Tulsiram Prajapati and several others before them. As it appears almost all Vanzara's victims were Muslims.
Rajdeep: It brings us to the question, was Vanzara acting in his own? Or was he following a political agenda?
Rajdeep: The last week Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, has chosen to stay silent.
Rajdeep: Also quiet is this man, The Minister of State for Home- Amit Shah - widely seen in Gujarat as someone who Vanzara directly reported to.
Rajdeep: According to an Intelligence bureau report, it was alleged that at a meeting held on January 30, 2006 at the Circuit House in Gandhinagar, Amit Shah admitted in cavalier manner that Kauser Bi had been killed by Vanzara.
Rajdeep: At the same time, if Vanjara was as close to the Shah-Modi duo as is alleged, why is he now in jail?
Which brings us to the second question- would the Gujarat government have acted against Vanzara if the Supreme court had not intervened?
Rajdeep: After all it was only after the court's intervention that the CID was activated and a report prepared by IPS officer Geeta Johri and followed up by Rajneesh Rai led to Vanzara's arrest and of the other IPS officers.
Rajdeep: And as the Vanzara investigation is now monitored by the Supreme Court, the question is, just how many more skeletons will tumble out of this rather grizzly cupboard of killings.
For CNN IBN
Rajdeep: What will be the political fallout of the Gujarat fake encounter killings?
Rajdeep: Joining us now, Teesta Setalvad; she is secretary, citizens for justice and peace. She has been fighting long and hard for justice in Gujarat.
Rajdeep: And Praful Goradia- former MP from Gujarat, who was then in the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).
Rajdeep: I'll have to come to you Mr Goradia because you've known Mr. Narendra Modi well- could, could something like this have happened without direction from the political forces? Would someone like Vanzara have taken the initiative on his own?
Rajdeep: Was there a political..
Goradia: Well, as far as I understand, the police; which is not very much, even a head constable who carries a revolver, can shoot someone. So, really whether any political intervention was required or not I cannot understand.. I cannot say...
Rajdeep: Mr Goradia, there have been more than one such incident ... a series of encounters have taken place ... can you believe that the political masters of Gujarat had no knowledge about it?
Goradia: Look, but then these things have happened across India so does it men that all political ministers and politicians have been involved in all the fake encounters? I don't understand- why don't you allow the investigators to finish their investigation and let the courts decide? Why are we three judging?
Rajdeep: ... Praful Goradia says let the due process of law continue. Till then you got to give the Narendra Modi government the benefit of doubt.
Teesta: Well fortunately some of us believe in due process of law which I think that the Gujarat government does not. The fact remains that it was in Janurary 2006 that the Supreme court registry wrote the Gujarat government asking them to inquire. But the director general of police did not order an inquiry even five and a half months later.
Teesta: So the background of this case suggests... as too I must admit that encounter cases in Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh...that unless they are sharply scrutinized by the court, you will not find due process of law followed.
Rajdeep: ... Mr Vanzara for example telling journalists outside the court that he still believes Sohrabbudin Sheikh was a terrorist. There was this previous argument made that Sohrabbudin Sheikh was not just an extortionist, but someone possibly living on the wrong side of the law and therefore Mr. Vanzara could claim... 'look I killed a criminal!' How do you respond to that?
Teesta: See the point is, the moment we start accepting this kind of argument, that a section of even society accepts, its like saying that it doesn't matter whether a trial court has found somebody guilty or not... but that person needs to be shot dead..
Teesta: Now the point is today we are in a situation where, even the intelligence bureau of our country is often misleading politicians about terrorism etc.. intelligence bureau is a closed outfit.
Teesta: Then for instance all this...
Teesta: ... Atleast two are Maharashtrian Hindus... and six are unknown persons. So lets not rush to the argument terrorists are Muslims, Muslims are terrorists- lets be a little careful.
Rajdeep: ... Isn't that too the argument that Mr. Praful Goradia, at some level, that the BJP is making at the moment either at the state level or at the center, that the Muslim is the terrorist. Effectively. That's the subtle propaganda in an election here in Gujarat- Muslim as terrorist. Therefore Mr Vanzara in essence, has a license to kill.
Goradia: No. I don't think anybody responsible can defend such a situation. No fake encounter can be morally justified. The only answer I would there give is, is that perhaps its an indication that we should tone up our entire police system, tone up our judiciary... so that judgements are delivered fairly, quickly ... and not like this situation... for example Sanjay Dutt..
Rajdeep: You accept that there is no moral argument that can be given by lets say the political leadership or even the police leadership in Gujarat. But look, several other people who have been killed were criminals and therefore they have been justified in a fake encounter.
Goradia: No. That is not fair. Then what is the idea of having police and what is the idea of having law courts and the law? Right? So that is morally unjustified.
Rajdeep: So who should take responsibility? A lady is killed and burnt... her body is burnt ... who should take responsibility? Should it just be the police leadership or should it be the political leadership?
Goradia: No. Those who killed her and burnt her should take the responsibility. Why bring the state everytime into the picture?
Rajdeep: Teesta Setalvad! Why bring the state everytime into the picture? Why bring the Minister of State for home? Why bring the Chief Minister focus on the police leadership?
Teesta: No I think that the point is that the political leadership and police leadership are very closely connected when it comes to dealing with crimes of this sort particularly quote-unquote terrorism etc.
Teesta: So whether it is Gujarat or Uttar Pradesh or Maharashtra- wherever there are such killings, I think the political leadership cannot escape scrunity.
Teesta: Fact remains, the very fact remains that some of the internal documents sighted in the petition that Mr. Rubabuddin who was the brother, also corroborated by Mr. Gopal Subramaniam report in the Supreme Court suggest that the Minister of State for Home tried to unduly influence the investigation, take it away from Mrs. Johri.... mandate the force to get it back ..
Teesta: And let's not forget that the Home portfolio in Gujarat, is Mr. Narendra Modi. So if you look at the agenda- the rules of business in a democracy, in an encounter death it does not stop with the BJP. It goes up to the Home Minister. Home Minister in Gujarat is Mr. Narendra Modi.
Rajdeep: So you are saying Narendra Modi has to... I just want the final word from you Praful Goradia .. isn't it interesting that Mr. Narendra Modi who knows how to use the media rather well... in this instance has kept completely silent!
Rajdeep: Why is he so silent?
Goradia: We dealt with that lady from Baroda who Setalvad defended so much and talks so much about and accused the Gujarat government.... eventually turned out to be a fake herself! I forget her name.. but you know, I mean ...
Rajdeep: We can remind you the name Mr. Goradia.. I just want to know don't you think that it's time for the political leadership to come clean in Gujarat? That's all.
Goradia: No. Come clean for what? You prove Narendra Modi guilty and do what you want to do with him.
Rajdeep: Okay. So you are saying let the cops find Modi guilty. Okay. Final word from you Ms. Setalvad... 10 secs... only if the courts find Mr. Modi or Mr. Shah guilty, should they be held responsible? Till then the focus on the police...
Teesta: It's the duty of everybody to point out the circumstances under which the courts are run whether its in Gujarat or elsewhere. And as you know Rajdeep, our battle against the Gujarat government, is in the courts.
Rajdeep: Right. Okay. Teesta Setalvad, Praful Goradia... I think we let the due process of law hopefully take its course. Maybe the law will do what other forms of justice have been unable to do. Vigilante justice has its limitations.
Rajdeep: Coming up on Big News: Why Vanzara's arrest has raised hopes of finding justice for one Mumbai...
Rajdeep: Welcome back to Big News. It's not just Kausar bi and Sohrabuddin, there have been other cases too of people who claim that their families have been victims of the fake encounter.
Rajdeep: Perhaps the most graphic case, that of teenager Ishrat Jehan killed in 2004... Her family is now demanding justice. Kanhaiya Singh reports.
Kainhaiya: Nusrat Jehan may look timid, but her resolve is unshakable. This 20 year old wants justice for her sister- Ishrat Jehan- killed in an encounter with DG Vanzara and his team, in Ahmedabad in 2004.
Kanhaiya: The police claim Ishrat and three others were plotting to kill Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi. Ishrat's family says it was a fake encounter.
Kanhaiya: For three years Ishrat's family has been living in distress and trauma carrying the tag of being a terrorist family. But now with the arrest of IPS officer Vanzara in a fake encounter case, they only hope that justice would eventually be delivered to them.
Nussrat: We are ready to go to any extent. We just want this case to be solved.
Kanhaiya: Ishrat's mother Shamima still finds it difficult to talk about the loss of her daughter.
Shamima: We became so weak... we cannot eat food... our strength is gone..
Kanhaiya: Ishrat had been her family's sole earning member after her father died in 2002. Now the 7 member household struggles to even feed itself. Ishrat's 16 year old brother Anwar gave up school to work. He was soon asked to quit.
Anwar: When they came to know of my sister, they asked me to quit. They said they didn't want any trouble.
Kanhaiya: The Jehan family now wants this case to be heard alongwith Sohrabuddin's case in the Supreme Court.
Kanhaiya: With Camera person Sumangal in Mumbai, Kainhaiya Singh.
Rajdeep: Carrying the story of Ishrat Jehan.. well, with senior police officers coming under the scanner in the Sohrabuddin Sheikh case, encounter killings are making news like never before. Remember its not just Gujarat but it seems to have spread across the country.
Rajdeep: Arunoday Mukherjee now analyzes the phenomenon of the encounter cops.
Arunoday: They are cops without a conscience. Vigilant teams in Khaki who hand out their own versions of justice. Killing first and never asking questions.
Arunoday: Daya Nayak, Pradeep Sharma, Rajdeep Singh- were all men who became a law unto themselves... men who made encounter killings the only option... even while there were alternatives... their reasoning- the criminal justice system doesn't work and somebody needs to take the bad guys down.
Arunoday: It's the kind of ruthless logic law abiding police officers cannot stand.
This is not the job of the police into one.
Arunoday: But no encounter cop can work alone. These shooters need the support of other policemen to carry out their kill.
Prakash Singh: I blame his immediate senior officers for this. I mean, unless he is blind, they would always get to know these things. And it is his responsibility to ensure that the man lives within his means.
Arunoday: Mumbai was the breeding ground for the first encounter cops. With status as the hub of underworld activity, meant there was enough prey for the trigger-happy policemen.
Arunoday: But like Daya Nayak- the most famous of them all- many encounter cops soon went from working against the mob, to taking a cut in their profits.
V P Singh: People got into investing their money into gangsters. Some people started taking money from gangsters for their investments.. so, there somebody had some work.. somebody's loan is not being recovered... huge amount is left... that also would take contract..
Arunoday: A uniform, a gun and a license to kill- when law enforcers turn into law breakers- anyone and everyone can be a easy target. But although the rise of these contract killers is rapid, their downfall can be equally quick.
In New Delhi, this is Arunoday Mukherjee.
Rajdeep: That story brings us to the next big question we are asking you on Big News: Have fake encounter killings become a norm in our country? Well joining us now, the country's most distinguished police officer Kiran Bedi, Director general department of police research and development. Thank you very much Dr. Bedi for joining us...
Rajdeep: My first question to you: Are these fake encounters the exception or are they the rule... is that an industry that has emerged within the police force of these fake encounters? Almost like a sub culture?
Kiran Bedi: Well they are... they are an exception, they are not a rule... but they are an exception... but there are substantial exceptions. But this exception sallies and muddles the entire police force. There are few anti-terrorist or whatever these squads are ...they are very, very few... they are not the majority... there are absolute miniscule minorities. But they are very trusted minority.
Kiran Bedi: But they absolutely blacken the face of the entire service.
Rajdeep: Because we are getting reports that crores of rupees are exchanging hands for encounters not just in Gujarat but in other parts of the country. What are the internal procedures today within the police force that ensure that such officers are held accountable? Where is the accountability ma'am?
Kiran Bedi: Well, one of the very important reccomendations of the National Police Commission was that every enconter should be followed by a Majesterial enquiry. I do not know whether a Majesterial enquiry was followed after every encounter which you are talking about. I think that's a question to ask. I do not know. Because I have not read it in any one of the media reports ... whether a Majesterial enquiry was held.. but this is a very important reccomendation of the 1970's National Commission.
Rajdeep: Sorry Ma'am ..you talk of the 1970's commission but there have been reports even subsequently... only last year we had the Model Police Act which Sol i Sorabjee was heading that committee... various recommendations were made to insulate the police from the political leadership. But we find several states including Gujarat, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, UP not implementing it. Why?
Kiran Bedi: You know, those states which are not even implementing it are already under the contempt. I think we are all waiting for the Supreme court to finally throw the hammer. Because they are all into contempt... because those judgments are valid. They are raw at the moment... till you insist the states enact a new law.
Kiran Bedi: And most of these states that are at the moment under a cloud are evading the judgments of the Supreme Court given both in September and in January this year. And one of the biggest safeguards of these encounters, Rajdeep, would be in functioning state security commissions which has both the Home Minister or the Chief Minister as Chairman, and the leader of the opposition as a part. And civil society, and the police, and the bureaucracy.
Kiran Bedi: Unless you have this functioning.. state security commission and these boards, you would continue to have these aberrations which blacken us all as a service.
Rajdeep: Okay. I want a final word from you. In a place like Gujarat, you believe that the police... you believe that in a sense that the police today is so interlinked with the political leadership?
Kiran Bedi: Well it is interlinked and that is why the Supreme court judgment has directed insulation... and the police commission recommendation has directed insulation... and that is why you have the state security commission board... that is why the model act Sorabjee act ... suggested and recommended insulation... So till that comes, police is not insulated.
Rajdeep: Okay. Kiran Bedi... thanks for being as much clear as ever. Thanks very much for joining us on Big News tonight. Well, up ahead we will be bringing you what we believe our editorial choice for the defining image of the week. Stay with us.
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