Telgis Narco test at FSL bangalore
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R: Can you tell me from when did you start this business of counterfeit stamp paper and stamps?
T: Yes. After introduction of Soni, Ram Ratan Soni, in custody in 1992-93, I started this.
R: This is...you were getting it from Ram Ratan Soni from '92 onwards.
T: Yes.
R: When did you manage to obtain, initially, fake stamp paper? From which places?
T: From Calcutta. Ashish Chakravarti and Mohammad Sayeed.
R: Hm. From Calcutta.
R: Only those two people you are aware of?
T: Yeah.
R: Ashish Chakravarti and Mohammad Sayeed?
T: Yes.
R: You obtained their stamp vending license in 19...?
T: 1994
R: '94?
T: Yes.
R: Stamp vending license?
T: Yeah.
R: Who helped you in getting the stamp vending license?
T: Naturally, Mr. MLA Anil Gote and Vilasrao Deshmukh.
R: How much money did you pay them?
T: There is no question of payment.
R: You got it just like that?
T: Yes.
R: Why your stamp vending license was cancelled?
T: Because there were some complaints against me. That's why they have cancelled the...
R: When did it was cancelled?
T: In 1995.
R: ...it was cancelled.
R: How did you manage to carry out their business even after the cancellation?
T: We convinced them. After convincing...
R: Whom did you convince?
T: We convinced the stamp officers.
R: Any particular person?
T: No particular person. The brothers in charge of the stamp office...we continued the business.
R: How did procured the machine, perforated machine, for printing and perforation?
T: Yes, this is... from [?]... that is actually from the... Nashik.
R: From Nashik. From ISP from Nashik.
T: Yeah.
R: And printing machine from?
T: From?
R: Perforated machine you got it from Nashik ISP. What about the printing machine? Printing machine where did you get from?
T: There is a local printing machine.
R: Local printing machine?
R: Who was doing this printing job for you?
[Telgi mumbles incoherently]
R: Who was doing the printing...?
T: Mr. Uday Sawant.
R: How did you manage to obtain the papers for printing the fake stamp papers? From ISP?
T: From Kulte.
[person in the background prompts] Now question.
R: How did you manage to get the printing paper?
T: Kulte.
R: Kulte.
R: Who are the officers who helped you from ISP?
[mumbles incoherently]
R: Who are the officers, Telgi?
T: They have helped...not helped me but there was tender, government tender. We filled it and we got it.
R: Printing the stamp papers.
R: Any of the suppliers who used to supply ISP, they also started supplying the papers to you?
[mumbles]
R: Telgi?
T: Many persons.
T: Can you tell me one or two names?
T: Mr. Ram Ratan Soni, Mr. Ashish Chakravarti.
R: They were the suppliers of papers to ISP?
T: Yes.
R: Then? Who else?
T: Who were the officers who were providing all the details, the ISP details?
R: Who were the officers who were providing the details of the papers?
T: Mr. Reddy.
R: Mr. Reddy. His full name? Shankar Reddy?
T: [mumbles] Ram Ratan Reddy.
R: What is his... Reddy's full name?
T: Ram Ratan Reddy.
R: Ram Ratan Reddy.
T: Hmm.
[person prompts from the background] Ram Prasad Reddy.
R: Ram Prasad Reddy, yeah? Telgi?
T: Yes?
R: Ram Prasad Reddy?
T: Ram Prasad Reddy.
Negatives
Negatives
R: How did you manage to obtain the negative of the design?
T: There is no question of obtaining design from the ISP. We have our own machine. We can make any number of negatives.
R: So no need to get a negative from ISP. You didn't get the negative from ISP or design from ISP?
T: No... [mumbles]
R: Can you tell me how Gangaprakash helped you?
R: Telgi?
T: Hello?
R: Can you tell me how Gangaprakash helped you?
T: Yes. Gangaprasad is a honest man.
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T: Yes. Gangaprasad is a honest man. But he is not involved in the scam. He is just the scapegoat but I don't know people why... [mumbles]
R: How did he help you?
T: He disappeared... [mumbles]
R: Hm?
T: [mumbles] He different man...
R: No. He helped you get a link for ISP, na?
R: ISP link is from Gangaprasad?
T: Yeah.
R: What is your link in the Mumbai stamp office?
R: Telgi?
T: Yes?
T: Yeah. Your... [mumbles]
R: Yes? Yes, tell me.
T: [mumbles]
R: What is your link in the Mumbai stamp office?
R: Telgi? Get up.
R: Get up. Telgi? Get up.
[Telgi groans]
R: Get up, get up. Come on, speak to me. Get up.
[Telgi groans]
R: Telgi.
[pats his cheek]
Get up.
T: Yeah, yeah.
R: Just tell me, what is your link in the Mumbai stamp office?
T: [mumbles]
R: Yes, tell me.
[pats his cheek again]
R: Get up. Just talk to me. Talk to me.
R: Get up, Telgi. Talk to me.
T: Yeah.
R: What is your link in the Mumbai stamp office? Who are the officers? Who are the employees? Who helped you?
R: Telgi, come on, get up. Get up.
T: Yeah.
R: Talk to me. Tell me who are the officers who have helped you.
T: Umm...uhh...
R: Mumbai stamp office. In the Mumbai stamp office, Telgi, who are the officers or the employees who helped you? Come on.
T: Yes. Uhh...
R: Who are the offices who have helped you?
T: In the Bombay?
R: Hm. In Bombay.
T: [mumbles]
R: Stamp office.
T: [mumbles]
R: Stamp office.
T: [mumbles incoherently]
R: Who is...who are those people? Can you tell me the names?
T: Already they arrested Mr. Mazumdar...
R: Mazumdar. Then? Then?
T: Only they have not arrested some man where they all are... [mumbles]
R: Yes?
T: [mumbles]
R: Huh? Repeat again. Which...
T: Yeah. Amris... [mumbles]
R: Not very clear. Not very clear.
T: Am... Amris... [mumbles]
R: Amrish Prasad, huh? Amrish Prasad?
T: Yes.
R: Who is he? Who is Amrish Prasad?
T: [groans]
R: Who is Amrish Prasad? He is in stamp office?
T: [continues groaning]
R: He is? Huh?
T: [mumbles]
R: Huh?
T: Amrish Prasad is from government.
R: Government. Okay. He is at Mumbai?
T: He is at Mumbai.
[person in the background prompts] Who is he doing business?
R: What is he doing?
T: He is businessman.
R: How can we find him? Can you tell me the address?
T: [mumbles]
R: How to find him?
T: Very easy to find him.
R: Please tell me the details.
T: Yes, you can find him by going to his house and...
R: Okay, where is his house located?
T: I think he is at...
R: At?
T: At Dadar.
R: Dadar, eh? Can you tell me the postal address? Dadar and...?
R: Telgi?
T: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
R: Tell me the address?
T: I don't remember. One minute huh.
R: Okay.
T: I don't remember but I will tell you.
R: Now?
Koshish karo.
T: Uhh...
koshish kar raha hoon. Mujhe yaad nahi aa raha hai lekin main bolunga uske baare mein.
[person from the background prompts]
R: Woh politicial ka...kaun tha Mumbai mein aapko fake stamp bechne ka madad karta tha. Woh kaun tha?
T: Politician
to fake stamp mein koi nahi hai asia bechne ke liye madad kiya hai.
R: Mumbai mein?
T: Nahi. They are friends.
R: That's all?
T: Yes, sir. Yes. They are friends and they don't force me to make for this commitment of us...
R: Anil Gote?
T: Anil Gote is a friend. Myself and Anil Gote, we have started a political party with 6 persons and we are captured 6 MLA seats in Bombay.
R: Are you a member of Kisan Trust?
T: Yes.
R: Of Anil Gote?
T: Yes.
R: How much donation did you give it to that Kisan Gote?
T: There is no limit for that... [ trails off]
R: What are the states which... his business was spread no? Hyderabad, Pune and...? And?
R: Telgi?
[pats his cheek]
R: Telgi? Come on, get up, get up.
R: Come on, get up. Talk to me.
R: Telgi. Mr. Telgi.
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R: He can't speak because... Just wet your mouth, okay, with water? Telgi?
T: Yeah.
R: You want little water? To wet your lips?
T: Yeah, yeah.
R: Yeah, we giving. Can you talk to me?
T: [mumbles]
R: Tell me, what are the states the stamp papers were spread? Which are the states?
T: ...is Delhi, Bangalore, Bombay and...
R: Hyderabad? Hyderabad?
T: [mumbles]
R: Pune?
T: Yes, Pune.
R: And? And? Apart from that?
T: And.
R: Nashik?
T: No.
R: Ajmer?
T: No.
[person in the background prompts] Delhi.
R: Delhi hai.
[to Telgi]
How much money did you pay to that Krishna Yadav?
T: 32 lakhs.
R: For what the payment was made?
T: He has kidnapped our two persons. To release them, I have made.
R: Who are all present when the money was handed over to him?
T: All their persons were there, not our...
R: Can you tell me the names?
T: Raju Srivastav.
R: Then?
T: Many are there now...
R: Please tell me one or two names. Raju Srivastav and then?
T: Then maybe Reddy was there.
R: Reddy and then?
T: Rao was there...
R: And then?
T: [mumbles]
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