Radia Tapes: 070 - Radia, Rohit Khanna (Vaishnavi) (15:54:06)
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Rohit: Yeah, I just wanted to update you on the discussion I had with a couple of guys regarding that natural resource thing.
R: Now Outlook Business, the guy is travelling to Barmer on Cairn energy fields so he's coming in tomorrow, so I will brief him on this. Then I spoke to a guy called Ashutosh who is an editor with NDTV.
R: But now, this is not a news and opinionated piece, these guys contribute regularly to the website. Now, the advantage of contributing - writing an article on a website makes it pretty global and fast.
R: So he's agreed to an idea but he needs some details so I had a discussion with Rohit that... we already have some stuff on UMPP and Telecom which is readily available with us. Uh, we are trying to source out some material from Sanjeev from Ranchi on iron ore bid.
UMPP - Ultra Mega Power Project
R: Natural gas we have.
R: And then I'll sit with Rohit tomorrow on coal and methane also.
N: No you should sit on, sit with uh, what's his name, uh, uh, on natural gas. Just look at TK Arun's argument today, it's compelling.
R: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that material we already have. So you know there's another mail which uh Manoj has just sent for uh, you know, with some new inputs.
N: Those're very important inputs Rohit, that Prasad ones, right?
R: Yeah yeah, I'm just doing that, just starting with that um particular thing now. I'm speaking to HT right away. I'm trying to figure out other publications also and regionals are also pretty important here, so I'm trying Dainik Jagran which is a big newspaper in Delhi and UP.
R: So I'm speaking to them, Dainik Jagran is already doing a story and I briefed him this morning so I'll give these further inputs for his story.
N: Hmm, hmm.
R: And then uh, I'm also speaking to HT Anupama and (inaudible), She's off to Assam but she said that she might be filing something. So these inputs will come in handy.
N: Yeah, I think it's important in a - I've spoken to Shekhar Gupta, Rahul, (inaudible).
M: I'll leave it to you to handle HT, any case HT edit piece is not written by Sanjoy.
R: Yeah, yeah yeah.
N: And I will send some of these points to Venu.
R: Hmm hmm hmm.
N: ...Already taken a position. Times of India you guys are gonna have to handle.
N: Okay and um, I think you should uh, you should put these perspectives out and region wise I've told Samba in Andhra and -
R: Yeah yeah, we have discussed that. Manoj is briefing Samba because you know, it is probably the Andhra publications which can take the stand that you know, what Dadri, why Dadri, there is nothing in Dadri so, why are you taking an asset from one particular state to you know, feed to another state where everything is non-existent.
N: No and also how can a High Court judge decide what a natural resource should be (inaudible). It's not a family property, na
, it's a government property.
R: Yeah, but it's not an arrangement between two brothers and you can make merry of natural resource.
N: That's right.
R: Yeah, so -
N: You have to hit out at the judgment, I think.
R: Yeah, in fact the entire essence of the judgment is you know, wrong... in that sense that even the government's own policy has been overruled.
N: Uh huh.
R: And everything has been sidetracked, and uh, you know even the very nature of the production sharing contract terms Reliance as an operator so they are not the owner. So how can a judge sitting in Bombay decide that okay, fine, since you have the gas you two brothers divide equally among yourselves and mint money.
N: So -
R: Yeah, so because according PSC Reliance is an operator, they are not the owner of that.
N: Yeah, and he's interpreting an MoU - who is he to decide on the, I mean he can interpret on an MoU, that's fine, but how that MoU and whether the government accepts it is not his business to tell, na
R: Yeah, specifically um, you know, um...it is taking the precedence over MoU, actually.
N: Correct, correct, correct.
N: So I think you need to, I think thoda sa dekho tum log
, VS ko bhi
. (I think you should have a look and brief VS also.) Sunil Jain ko maine bola hai
(I told them), Sunil Jain is on a bit of a rant - you know, rampant uh, He is right now talking about the 50,000 crores quoted in SE.
R: Sorry? Sorry?
N: He is talking about the 50,000 crores quoted in SE right now. Lo -
R: Okay, (indiscernible).
N: Lost to RIL, Rohit.
N: It's not 50,000 crores. But he's (inaudible).
N: He is on that, you know, Sunil Jain's saying no no, give me the financial - how much loss will it be for RIL?
R: So is Sunil writing a (sic) edit on the similar line or is he taking these cues as well.
N: I think he's writing on 50,000 crores.
R: Okay, okay.
N: Which I hope not.
R: Hmm, hmm.
R: Okay, then let me handle these other things also, you know I'll try and figure out if Indian Express can do something though it's difficult, because Indian Express is one publication which has not shown much interest in this actually, though they have done half a page story but it's more of a reporting story rather than an opinion.
N: No I'll talk to Vedi (?).
R: You've spoken to already?
N: I'll talk to - why don't you talk to Vedi, you all know him very well.
R: Ma'am, uh, I will talk to the deputy of Vedi, I will talk to ... Priya(?) who understands this subject better, then probably he will be in a better position to uh, explain it to Vedi. Because Vedi doesn't have the pulse on this sector and this is my past experience.
N: No but surely you can move towards getting an editorial written, na
R: Yeah but then I'll try and reach Vedi through Priyadarshan, because Priyadarshan might contribute towards it.
N: Okay, theek hai
, you do that then.
N: Let me know.., Rohit, so we'll know where to touch base in the evening and know what each one is doing. Because getting a public opinion against the judgment now becomes very important, haan
R: Yeah, yeah yeah.
N: Yeah? You got - even Prasad has sent very compelling arguments.