Radia Tapes: 042 - Radia, Navika Kumar
Duration: 00:04:42; Aspect Ratio: 1.250:1; Lightness: 0.070; Volume: 0.202; Cuts per Minute: 5.313; Words per Minute: 244.188
Navika: Hi Niira.
Niira: Hi, how are you?
Navika: Very well, how are you?
Niira: I'm fine, BJP ki aaj
meeting hai, paanch baje
(BJP has a meeting today at 5).
Navika: Kis baat se
Niira: (inaudible) Tu
phonena karna sabko,
(Don't call anyone please, first).
Navika: Main nahin kar rahi
(I'm not calling), who is interested in what meeting BJP is doing now.
Niira: Nahin, main tujhe paanch baje ek
news doongi par uske pehle nahin de sakti
(No, I'll give you some news before five o'clock, but I can't give it to you before that).
Navika: Accha bata de na yaar, main nahin kar rahi kisi ko
(Okay, just tell me, I'm not calling anyone).
Niira: Nahin par tu
Arun Jaitley ko
phone kar ke bol degi na
(No but you'll call Arun Jaitley and tell him, won't you)?
Navika: Nahin bolungi yaar
(I won't tell, friend).
Navika: Bilkul nahin bolungi
(I won't tell at all).
Navika: Haan haan
(Yes yes), promise.
(No) because Arun Jaitley is your friend, na
Navika: So woh toh mere saare dost hain
(So, they're all my friends). I'm not calling up, nahin nahin nahin
(no no no), I'm not gonna call -
Niira: Mujhe kya lag raha hai aaj ke din, aaj kya
revolt hone wallah hai
(I have a feeling that today, there's going to be some revolt)
Navika: By whom?
Niira: Main tujhe paanch baje bataungi
(I'll tell you at five o' clock).
Niira: Paanch baje bataungi
(I'll tell you at five).
Navika: Nahin nahin, bata de yaar, main nahin kar rahin kisi se
(No no no, tell me, I won't tell anyone).
Niira: Nahin nahin, abhi nahin bata sakti main
(No no, I can't tell now).
Navika: Nahin nahin, main sachchi kisi ko nahin kar rahi
Niira, you can trust me, itni badi badi baatein tune mujhe batai hai
(No no, I'm truly not going to call anyone, Niira, you can trust me, you've told me such big things).
Navika: Have I let you down on anyone?
Niira: Just one sec...
Niira: Just one sec...
Navika: Woh kya keh raha hai
(What is he saying)?
Niira: Keh raha hai ki
accountability nahin hai
. Basically woh jaane wallah hai ke
honest system nahin hai
, feedback system nahin hai
, feedback hota hai toh
its brushed under the carpet. (He's saying there's no accountability. Bacially he's going to find out that there's no honest, feedback system, even if there's feedback its swept under the carpet.)
Niira: Cabal five-six people, rewards are also shared between the Cabal, theek hai
so again the money was done, Rajasthan was a disaster.
Niira: With no follow up. Basically what is happening - woh paanch baje, tu
please, usse pehle to bilkul na karna nahin toh
I'll be dead, haan
(Five o'clock, please, don't call anyone before that or I'll be dead, okay) -
Navika: Nahin karungi, nahin nahin nahin karungi
(I won't call, I won't won't won't call).
(And), basically, there is a revolt that's starting in the BJP against the top leadership which includes Rajnath, includes Advani, includes uh, Venkaiah, that whole group of people plus Advani.
Jaswant Singh shuru karega usko
(And Jaswant Singh is going to begin it).
(Alright), and then it will be taken up -
Niira: And Arun Jaitley also, it's also Arun Jaitley.
Navika: Against Arun Jaitley, or Arun Jaitley will also be part of the revolt?
, Arun Jaitley ka toh, dekho na,
Narendra Modi, uh, Arun Jaitley, Anant Kumar, Venkaiah Naidu, yeh sab to
coterie hai na
, Advani ke
. (They all form Advani's coterie.)
Navika: Hmm. Good good good, they need...
Niira: They need the shake up.
Navika: They need some thrashing, haan, they need some thrashing of issues.
, Surendar Kulkarni, yeh sab
, the idea is to...they've never been...they're saying there's no democracy in the party. And between Rajnath and his own group, between Advani and his own group, and Arun Jaitley with Narendra Modi they just you know, destroyed the party.
Navika: And Jaswant Singh will put it together?
Niira: Maybe he won't, par usko phir
(but then he)...the question is ke
(that) somebody is leading the revolt, na
, to shake up the system. What is the outcome of that how is he interested?
Navika: That should be very interesting, yeah, very interesting. At least BJP will hit the headlines even if it's for the wrong reasons, as they used to (laughs).
Niira: But yeh paanch baje ke baad hoga, haan
(But this will happen after five o'clock, okay).
Navika: Haan haan, main nahin kar rahi
(Yes yes, I'm not calling).
Niira: Usko pehle ghusne de andar, phir mai tujhe batati hun. Woh shayad
letter circulate kare, main tujhe de, aa jayegaa toh mai tujhe bhijwa dungi. Toh tu mil hi jayegi tere doston se wahan pe.
(Let him first get on the inside. Maybe he will circulate a letter, If it comes, I'll send it to you. Anyway you'll meet your friends over there.)
Navika: Theek hai, theek hai main karvati hun.
(Okay, okay, I'll have it done.)
Niira: Please par
Navika: Nahin nahin, paanch baje ke pehle kuch bhi nahin hoga.
(No no, nothing will be done before five o' clock.)
Arun Jaitley se baat na karna
(Don't talk to Arun Jaitley).
Navika: Nahin bilkul bhi nahin kar rahi, bilkul bhi nahin
(No, absolutely not calling him, absolutely not).
Niira: Because I will never be given any information again after that.
Navika: No no no, I will not, I...see if it was big, I would pleaded with you to let me do it and even then I wouldn't have betrayed and done it. But this one I'll wait for it to happen, and then do it.
Niira: Haan, paanch baje ke baad, haan
(Okay after five, okay)?
Navika: Are you in town, I thought you would be holidaying in some nice place, ya -
Niira: Kya bey
Navika: London, Switzerland -
Niira: Clients kahan chain holiday karne ke liye dete
Navika: And the people who can afford also don't take holidays toh mujhe badi dukh hota hai
(then it saddens me greatly) (Laughs).
Niira: (Laughs) I'll tell you it's not worth it, it's just nonsense, I'll tell you, honestly, seriously, I agree with you, I feel also very depressed ki phaayda kya hai
! (What's the use!))
Navika: (Laughing) What's the point yaar itna kama ke
(of earning so much)?
Niira: (Laughing) Absolutely, seriously. I'm going to Bombay next week, and I'm going to have presentations in Bombay next week, no holiday.
, how boring can you get? Get a life.
Niira: I know.
Navika: Let's do at least lunch this week.
Niira: Let's do that, chal
(come), I'm here, tu mujhe
phone kar dena
(call me), how you're placed.
Navika: Let's do...what is today, Wednesday? Let's do Thursday, Friday, whatever's okay with you.
Niira: Friday...Friday karte hain
, late haan
(Let's do this on Friday, but late, okay)?
Navika: Friday, then.
Niira: Friday do baje kar lete hain, haan
(Friday at two, okay)?
Navika: Haan haan
(Yes yes), perfect.