Radia Tapes: 121 - Radia, Sunil Arora
Duration: 00:06:11; Aspect Ratio: 1.250:1; Lightness: 0.061; Volume: 0.208; Cuts per Minute: 3.554; Words per Minute: 176.418
NR: Sunil, hi.
NR: I'm sorry, I've been so caught up in my court case na
SA: Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin...
(No, no problem)
listen, they have approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee...
SA: Yes, I found out...
NR: Yeah, no, yesterday I spoke to him, he's in Israel right now. He said he's not- I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on over the last five years,
NR: ...and why. But I think he is going to meet the Prime Minister.
NR: Because I don't... He is not going to do it.
NR: I said because the only reason they are asking you to do this is because they want you to ratify all the deals that they have done. And all the bad stuff.
SA: That's right, that's right. Exactly
NR: Yeah, so they want credibiliity and all that.
NR: So he said- I told him I'd speak to you,
NR: - he said can you ask Sunil to give me a 5-7 page letter
NR: which spells out what has been going on,
NR: so that when I meet Prime Minister-
SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister?
NR: When he comes back. He is meeting him on Saturday. He is coming back on Friday
NR: and he'll take(?) time next week.
SA: Theek hai
NR: So he says if you ask him to send me a note,
NR: which tells me exactly what's been going on,
NR: and what is the thing. And I've spoken to him about you.
NR: Tarun Das is speaking about you, by the way, to Prime Minister, as soon as he comes back from his G8
W: Woh maine toh, aaa, sab... de diya usko
... (I gave it all to him)
NR: because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG.
NR: So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal ka
meeting Friday ko hai
D.K. Nair ke saath
. (Baijal's meeting with DK Nair is on Friday)
.. the umm.. they're all.. I think everyone is in agreement now.
NR: -from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how they've destroyed Air India.
NR: Toh,uske liye
(And for that...) he knows you quiet well Jojo,he says he's met you a few times.
SA: off the head dhyaan nahin hai
. (I don't know)
NR: Toh, jojo is telling me- Jojo is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na.
SA: No no, I know about him, but
SA: may be once or twice I've met. Mujhe
off-hand dhyaan nahin hai. haan
Jojo - Jaideep Bose (TOI)
NR: So he's going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, He's in Bombay though.
NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it.... But they're going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. They're...
SA: So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata,
SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention in third person that it is understood that..., there are 2 major issues now- Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express.
SA: On Air India Express, as a Board member, I had raised a series of issues. Officially.
SA: So can we just write the sentence like - "one of the board members has brought these things to the discussion...board"- or what..? Or would he not like to show that much, this thing?
NR: No I think you should put it down. I think you should write him a note that you're writing to, uh,... is that he will read and he will then translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it.
NR: You understand na.
SA: Haan haan. Theek hai…Theek hai
NR: Thats the way it will be.
SA: Bilateral toh
I will have to check the recent information.
NR: Bilateral, woh woh woh
.. airline deals, the aircraft deals… all that.
SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal,
SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air India Express.
SA: Other is …this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left.
SA: So I would only, I would also know…sketchy details... but I'll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two people… who have retired. I know one person who has retired who is in touch with me… he used to be in planning. I'll not tell him the purpose ofcourse.
SA: Vijay Kumar used to be in planning.
SA: That too planning- and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, I'll make it. Because obviously, he'll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy.
NR: And I also want to offline give him the details joh tumne bheji thi na, pura
NR: Woh toh main doongi na usko
SA: That's my letter to Cabinet Secretary
NR: For his own information na.
SA: Eh? No, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues.
SA: The issue is that it remains with him, and he destroys it after reading it.
SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary,
SA: he can read and then destroy it.
, I'll have to give it to him and he'll destroy it. Naturally, he's not going to.. He needs to have a background ke
what the hell are they asking him to do na.
, then I'll send the letter. I have the letter
NR: You tell me when everything is done, I'll send someone to pick it up.
NR: I also need, separately, ((SMS alert tone)) in your own words.. for Tarun Das.
NR: for Tarun Das.
NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done,
NR: but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na.
SA: That's not that good. I mean that toh… you want me to give that?
NR: Accha dekho
Sunil mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke
, you have to -in fact Tarun Das has sent me a sms just now, which I'm just seeing now, which has come on my other phone.
NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only.
NR: Let me call him and call you back.