Radia Tapes: 050 - Radia, Rajathi Ammal

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This conversation is between Ratnam, Chartered Accountant of Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi’s third wife Rajathiammal, Rajathiammal herself and Niira Radia.

Rathinam/Ratnam is an auditor

(Phone rings)

Niira Radia: Hello
Ratnam: Yeah, morning Madam.

Niira Radia: Haan, haan, namaskaaraa (Yes, yes, greetings).
Ratnam: Madam (Rajathiammal, third wife of Karunanidhi and mother of DMK MP, Kanimozhi) baat karna chahti hai (Madam would like to speak to you).

Niira Radia: Haan, haan, diijiiye (Yes, yes, please hand her the phone).
Ratnam: De duun? (Shall I hand her the phone?)

Niira Radia: Haan haan, please, sorry, (whispers to someone nearby) Karunanidhi ke ghar se.

(call is being transferred)
Niira Radia: (to someone nearby) Oh, so sorry.

Niira Radia: Hello, how are you?
Rajathiammal: Fine, thank you, how are you?

Niira Radia: I am sorry I have not been in touch, I'm fine, I've been um, busy! How are you?
Rajathiammal: Hmm fine.

Niira Radia: Yeah, keeping better?
Rajathiammal: Uh.

Niira Radia: Good, good, good. How is CM (Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi)?
Rajathiammal: Aahhh fine fine, fine.

Niira Radia: OK. Good, very good. Kani (Kanimozhi), Kani, I did not...I met Kani last week, I didn't meet her this week. Kani is in Chennai?
Rajathiammal: Ahh yes.

Niira Radia: She's come back no? Aha. How are things?
Rajathiammal: Mmm.
Niira Radia: Good na.
Rajathiammal: (inaudible)

Niira Radia: Huh? Hello?
(pause)
Rajathiammal: What happened?

Niira Radia: To?
Rajathiammal: Ah.

Niira Radia: Tata?
Rajathiammal: Ah, yes.

Niira Radia: It's not done?
Rajathiammal: Ah. No done.

Niira Radia: Ratnam there?
Rajathiammal: Yes.

Niira Radia: Let me speak to him. I thought it was all done!
Rajathiammal: Ah, just a minute.

Ratnam: Hello?
Niira Radia: Hi Ratnam.
Ratnam: Yeah ma'am?

Niira Radia: What happened, it's not done?
Ratnam: Nahin madam, it's not done. That's why I just gave you a message, no, ma'am.

Niira Radia: I didn't get a message!
Ratnam: Ma'am?

Niira Radia: You know I changed my mobile. I thought you got my mobile. You don't have my new mobile number?
Ratnam: I am trying you on that mobile only, now the same mobile only he also tried, no?

Niira Radia: No, no, this is my regular - this is my 107 number. My Indicom, my Indicom.
Ratnam: Tata Indicom - you've changed your mobile, ma'am?

Niira Radia: Yeah zero-nine-two-five thousand.
Ratnam: Two-five-thousand...

Niira Radia: Double-eight-double-eight.
Ratnam: This has not been given to us.

Niira Radia: No, no, I told Cecilia last week itself. I said please send it.
Ratnam: Nahin ma'am, Cecilia is totally, Cecilia is now not in touch.

Niira Radia: No, no, I will tell you why. Last week she was - her mother's is in hospital.
Ratnam: Yeah, that I know.

Niira Radia: She's been very sick. So that's why Cecilia has been a bit problematic.
Ratnam: Hmm, hmm. But you said no, you yourself have done.

Niira Radia: Yeah!
Ratnam: But that's not come. That is why I sent a message to you.

(pause)
Niira Radia: I can't believe that, is it?
Ratnam: Yeah ma'am, yeah ma'am.

Niira Radia: How can that be possible?
Ratnam: Nahin ma'am, it has not come.

(pause)
Niira Radia: What about Tatas? What's happening on that?
Ratnam: Ma'am, Tata...everything's ok, but this rent 50 percent, yesterday I got a mail, that's why yesterday also I tried you.

Niira Radia: Haan.
Ratnam: This agreement, they say that 50 percent of the rent has to be paid by us. For which I have already sent a mail to
Krishna Kumar stating that its not possible. Then I made a call to Krishna Kumar, he did not picked up (sic) and then I called Sanjay Ubhalia.
Krishna Kumar: Director, Tata Sons, and one of key aides of Ratan Tata, and also Chairman, Tata Realty and Infrastructure Ltd.
Sanjay Ubhalia: Managing Director, Tata Realty and Infrastructure Ltd.

Niira Radia: Haan.
Ratnam: He says that he will take up the issue with Krishna Kumar and sort it out, that.

Niira Radia: No, but when you were in Bombay, it was agreed that no rent and -
Ratnam: Very clearly it was agreed and Krishna Kumar also said that he will talk to Voltas (a Tata Group company) and he will waive that.

Niira Radia: Haan.
Ratnam: But yesterday whole day ten times I tried Krishna Kumar, Krishna Kuma was in a meeting it seems.

Niira Radia: No, no, yesterday was Indian Hotels board meeting, it was the annual results being announced -
Ratnam: Oh, oh, oh.
Niira Radia: - and also they were in the middle of buying Sea Rock Hotel in Bombay, no?
Ratnam: Oh, oh.

Niira Radia: So that's why, and I know that - it was very difficult to reach him yesterday.
Ratnam: Yeah, yeah, that's why I called you , I wanted to tell this.

Niira Radia: No, I will speak to him, I will speak to him uh, Ratnam I'll speak to him Monday, because you know today he is not there, he has gone with the Chairman (Ratan Tata). I hope he hasn't travelled to the US today.
Ratnam: Who, ma'am?

Niira Radia: Krishna Kumar was leaving for the US again today, I think.
Ratnam: No ma'am, only one day, Thursday only he come back, if I'm right, ma'am?

Niira Radia: No, no, he has gone again. He is going with his Chairman today.
Ratnam: Is it, ma'am?
Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah, he was scheduled to travel this morning on Air India.
Ratnam: Oh!

Niira Radia: Let me check, let me check. I will have a word with thm. But on the other matter I am surprised!
Ratnam: Yes, ma'am, that is why I am repeatedly calling Cecilia, but I am not able to reach her because mobile is totally switched off.,

Niira Radia: ...Let me talk to her. I'll just talk to her and, you got my other number na?
Ratnam: I got your number, that number is now your -

Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah, do me a favour Ratnam. Give me a missed call on that number from your phone.
Ratnam: Yeah yeah.

Niira Radia: You don't have any other phone Ratnam?
Ratnam: I have ma'am. Give me a missed call from that number na -

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